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Welcome to our messy conversations. This Will Get Messy is a collection of our unserious chats about the inevitable ups and downs of life - think shedding expectations, comparison, career, relationships, Australia, and more.

Your hosts, Roberto and Mars, are two friends who can talk for hours about everything while rarely being in the same country.

Expect to hear about our own minorly disastrous stories, the inevitable resultant laughter, and a little squeeze of relief from knowing you've got company in this messy life.

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