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Living in the Matrix is a conversation between two long-time friends and curious souls about what it means to live in the world that is often on fire. We seek out and find individuals who are challenging the status quo. We're constantly asking, How do we grow as human beings and push aside the prison that is conformity and certainty. How can we as human beings be more compassionate, loving and courageous. Rich and Jonathan discuss anything that pushes us out of our comfort zones, and tackle it with courage and curiosity. No question is too sensitive to ask.

Our hope is to highlight ideas that can change the world for the better. We discuss politics, science, business, spirituality, and relationships. We might not always agree, and we are always willing to learn and have a lot of fun.

*We use adult language at times.

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